Monday, June 16, 2008

Is the EU a NAZI European Union? No way as Hitler would have hated the EU.

The European union is not a NAZI invention in any way. It is a common ploy by the euro skeptics to claim the NAZIs were the first to support a United Europe and sharing of sovereignty. In reality there was no consistent support for a United Europe from the Nazis, or Hitler's main policies. Hitler supported a union of all the Germanic people, (Greater Germany) and to expand “Lebensraum”, living space in the east (Ukraine and the Soviet Union), for the German people to live. He had no desire to unite Europe with an alliance of equal nations as he saw Germany as being the dominant power not a equal state in a large equal European union. He would not have accepted Austria, Holland and Czech republic as independent voices outside of Germany. He supported Greater Germany. Not a equal European Union.

Points raised in my article.
1. Hitler withdrew from the league of nations showing his hatred of multinational cooperation. The League had accepted Germany as a member in 1926, deeming it a "peace-loving country", but Adolf Hitler pulled Germany out when he came to power in 1933. Hungary's NAZI sympathizing government under Gyula Gömbös supported Hungary leaving the league of nations.

2. In Mein Kampf you can see Hitler had no vision of European alliance of equal nations.
He states in one section of Mein Kampf:
"If in the past our ancestors had based their political decisions on similar pacifist nonsense as our present generation does, we should not possess more than one-third of the national territory that we possess to-day and probably there would be no German nation to worry about its future in Europe."
So from this you can see he fears other European nations, and does not support cooperation between nations.
From reading Mein Kampf you can see he is obsessed by Germany's power and talks of the long term strategic geopolitical power of Germany, and it's borders. He seeks an alliance with what he calls "England" to ensure Germany is given living space in Russia. And he criticicises German leaders who broke with "England".
In Mein Kampf he states
"The whole system of alliances should have been envisaged and valued from that standpoint. If new territory were to be acquired in Europe it must have been mainly at Russia's cost, and once again the new German Empire should have set out on its march along the same road as was formerly trodden by the Teutonic Knights, this time to acquire soil for the German plough by means of the German sword and thus provide the nation with its daily bread." He then states. "For such a policy, however, there was only one possible ally in Europe. That was England."
I see no evidence in Mein Kampf that he supported an equal alliance of European nations in peace.

He says in Mein Kampf
"Now it is unfortunately true that only too often the best nations - or, to speak more exactly, the only really cultured nations, who at the same time are the chief bearers of human progress - have decided, in their blind pacifism, to refrain from the acquisition of new territory and to be content with 'internal colonization.'" This ties in with the theory that he saw some nations as inferior. Which would not be compatible with the EU or the UN or the league of nations that he removed his nation from.

3. Perhaps most damningally for all Euroskeptics is the typical Euro skeptic claim that the EU is French German alliance. Well I quote in Mein Kampf "Finally, we must be quite clear on the following point: France is and will remain the implacable enemy of Germany. It does not matter what Governments have ruled or will rule in France". So the EU is an enemy of Hitler's geopolitical claims, that France is an enemy of Germany.

4. Hitler did not unite all then the nations he conquered under one national government. He kept single currencies, and unelected pro NAZI leaders ruling many of the states he conquered and explicitly did not anex them into Greater Germany.
In Mein Kampf Hitler states
"Only children could believe that sweet and unctuous expressions of goodness and persistent avowals of peaceful intentions could get them their bananas through this 'friendly competition between the nations', with the prospect of never having to fight for them.". Once again these lines to me indicate a contempt for the values of our European Union.
I also think these lines from Hitler's Mein Kampf show contempt for the values of the EU "The chatter about the peaceful conquest of the world by commercial means was probably the most completely nonsensical stuff ever raised to the dignity of a guiding principle in the policy of a State".

2. Hitler united Greater Germany but seemed to "respect" the independence of some other nations, except when it got in the way of shirt term Germany military actions. This was because he wanted to unite Greater Germany.
Großdeutschland (German for "Greater Germany" or "Large Germany") is a term referring to the concept of one German nation state with adequate "living space" (Lebensraum) for all of the Germanic peoples. In the 19th century, Greater Germany (Großdeutschland) was the idea of a unified Germany including Austria, as opposed to the Prussian-promoted alternative of Lesser Germany (Kleindeutschland), which excluded Austria. With the foundation of the German Empire in 1871, which did not include Austria, the Kleindeutschland solution was put into practice. Others proposed a unified Germany including all lands of the Austrian Empire. Großdeutschland became a reality after the Anschluss with Austria by Nazi Germany in 1938. During the war, Nazi Germany directly annexed Alsace-Lorraine and Eupen-Malmedy which were lost in 1919 but also took over Luxembourg, the Sudetenland portions of the present-day Czech Republic, and large parts of Poland. The areas annexed by German were considered part of a Greater German state, in contrast to parts of Poland under the General Government and the Protectorate of Bohemia-Moravia, both of which were German controlled, but not part of Greater Germany. This came to an end with the Surrender of Germany to the Allies in 1945.
Another aim of the German occupiers was to dissolve the Dutch nation and make it part of a greater Germanic, or Aryan, one. The German officials, including those of the SS, Arthur Seyss-Inquart, and Adolf Hitler himself regarded the Dutch as part of the Aryan Herrenvolk.

5. Here is how Hitler treated some of the nations.
Luxembourg
The Nazis considered the Luxembourgers as just another Germanic ethnic group and the Grand Duchy a German territory. That is why the country was never formally annexed.
Following the refusal of the Dutch government to return, the Netherlands was controlled by a German civilian governor—unlike France, Denmark and Norway, which had their own governments, or Belgium, which was placed under direct German military control.
Hitler supported Italy and Spain being strong independent nations but run by fascist leaders.
Sweden
The policy of Sweden during World War II was to remain neutral. Swedish neutrality had been the policy for more than a century, since the end of the Napoleonic Wars. Germany did no prevent this.
Romania
In June 1941, after a brief period of nominal neutrality under King Carol, Romania joined the Axis Powers. Romania became a member of the Axis under the government of Ion Antonescu. In August 1944, a coup led by King Michael deposed Antonescu dictatorship and put Romania on the side of the Allies for the remainder of the war.
Ion Victor Antonescu (June 15, 1882, Pites,ti – June 1, 1946, near Jilava) was the prime minister and conduca(tor (Leader) of Romania during World War II from September 4, 1940 to August 23, 1944.
Denmark
Contrary to the situation in other countries under German occupation, most Danish institutions continued to function relatively normally until 1943. Both the Danish government and King remained in the country in an uneasy relationship between a democratic and a totalitarian system until German authorities dissolved the government following a wave of strikes and sabotage.
Albania
Germany occupied Albania in September 1943, dropping paratroopers into Tirana before the Albanian guerrillas could take the capital, and the German army soon drove the guerrillas into the hills and to the south. Berlin subsequently announced it would recognize the independence of a neutral Albania and organized an Albanian government, police, and military.
The Slovak Republic (Slovak: Slovenská republika) was an independent national Slovak state which existed from 14 March 1939 to 8 May 1945 as an ally and client state of Nazi Germany. It existed on roughly the same territory as present-day Slovakia (with the exception of the southern and eastern parts of present-day Slovakia). The Republic bordered Germany, the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, General Government (enemy-occupied remnant of Poland), and Hungary.
Bulgaria
Under Filov's government Bulgaria drifted into World War II, faced by an Invasion and bribed by the return of southern Dobruja from Romania, on the orders of Hitler (see Vienna Award), in September 1940. In March 1941 Bulgaria formally signed the Tripartite Pact, becoming a German ally, and German troops entered the country in preparation for the German invasion of Greece and Yugoslavia. When Yugoslavia and Greece were defeated, Bulgaria was allowed to occupy all of Greek Thrace and most of Macedonia. Bulgaria declared war on Britain and the United States, but resisted German pressure to declare war on the Soviet Union, fearful of pro-Russian sentiment in the country.
In August 1943 Tsar Boris died suddenly after returning from Germany (possibly assassinated, although this has never been proved) and was succeeded by his six-year old son Simeon II. Power was held by a council of regents headed by the young Tsar's uncle, Prince Kirill. The new Prime Minister, Dobri Bozhilov, was in most respects a German puppet.
Resistance to the Germans and the Bulgarian regime was widespread by 1943, coordinated mainly by the Communists. Together with the Agrarians, now led by Nikola Petkov, the Social Democrats and even with many army officers they founded the Fatherland Front. Partisans operated in the mountainous west and south. By 1944 it was obvious that Germany was losing the war and the regime began to look for a way out. Bozhilov resigned in May, and his successor Ivan Ivanov Bagrianov tried to arrange negotiations with the western Allies.
The Kingdom of Bulgaria (Bulgarian: ??????? ????????) was established on October 5, 1908 (September 22 O.S.) when the Principality of Bulgaria officially[1] proclaimed itself independent from the Ottoman Empire and was elevated to the style of kingdom. This move also formalised the annexation of the Ottoman province of Eastern Rumelia, which had been under Bulgarian control since 1885. In 1946 the monarchy was abolished, its final Tsar was sent into exile and the kingdom was replaced by a People's Republic.
France
It is a common misconception that the Vichy regime administered only the unoccupied zone of southern France (named "free zone" (zone libre) by Vichy), while the Germans directly administered the occupied zone. In fact, the civil jurisdiction of the Vichy government extended over the whole of metropolitan France, except for Alsace-Lorraine, a disputed territory which was placed under German administration (though not formally annexed). French civil servants in Bordeaux, such as Maurice Papon, or Nantes were under the authority of French ministers in Vichy. René Bousquet, head of French police nominated by Vichy, exercised his power directly in Paris through his second, Jean Leguay, who coordinated raids with the Nazis.
Hungary
The Great Depression induced a drop in the standard of living and the political mood of the country shifted further toward the right. In 1932, Regent Miklós Horthy appointed a new prime-minister, Gyula Gömbös, that changed the course of Hungarian policy towards closer cooperation with Germany and started an effort to assimilate the small minority population in Hungary, which totalled 5-7% of the population. Gömbös signed a trade agreement with Germany that led to the fast expansion of the economy, drawing Hungary out of the Great Depression, but made Hungary dependent on the German economy for both raw materials and markets. Gömbös advocated a number of social reforms, a one-party government, a revision of the Treaty of Trianon, and Hungary's withdrawal from the League of Nations.
The Slovak Republic was recognized by Nazi Germany and states friendly (or neutral) towards Germany. The states recognizing the Slovak Republic included Great Britain, Italy, Japan, and its puppet states (Manchukuo, Mengjiang, and the Provisional Government of China), the Soviet Union, Spain, Croatia, Lithuania, Estonia, Switzerland, El Salvador, the Vatican and Hungary. But the first Slovak Republic's legal existence was retroactively nullified by World War II victorious parties as a result of the nullification of the Munich Agreement and all its consequences.
Germany
Finland
During the Continuation War (1941-1944) Finland was co-belligerent with Nazi Germany, and dependent on food, fuel and armament shipments from Germany. The country did, however, retain a democratic form of government. During the war Germany and Finland were united by a common enemy, the Soviet Union, yet Finland kept her army outside the German command structure despite numerous attempts to tie them more tightly together.
Finnish Jews were not persecuted, and even among extremists of the Finnish Right they were highly tolerated, as many leaders of the movement came from the clergy. Of approximately five hundred Jewish refugees, eight were handed over to the Germans, a fact for which Finnish prime minister Paavo Lipponen issued an official apology in 2000. The field synagogue operated by the Finnish army was probably a unique phenomenon in Europe.

6. Many of the "NAZI's" the Euro skeptics put forward to suggest their was NAZI support for the EU turn out be simply academics employed in German universities at the time, and seem to not be in reality Nazis But simply classified as Nazis by euroskeptics as they lived and worked in Germany at the time of NAZI government. This logic would mean that every Soviet union academic during the Stalin era was a Stalinist.
7. Hitler supported the British Empire as he said in Zweites Buch. Where he hoped for alliance of Greater Germany and the British Empire against the USA.
8. Hitler maintained national divisions in Europe despite having the ability to enforce any extreme elements of his ideology. So there is no hint of a desire for single currency or European president.
9. Hitler regarded many European people as inferior races such as the European Jews, the non Aryans, Gypsies. So he did not accept the concept of a united Europe of equal nations.
10. In Mein Kampf Hitler predicts the stages of Germany's political emergence on the world scene: in the first stage, Germany would, through a program of massive rearmament, overthrow the shackles of the Treaty of Versailles and form alliances with the British Empire and Fascist Italy (No European Union). The second stage would feature wars against France and her allies in Eastern Europe by the combined forces of Germany, Britain and Italy (No European nation). The third and final stage would be a war to destroy what Hitler saw as the "Judeo-Bolshevik" regime in the Soviet Union that would give Germany the necessary Lebensraum. German historian Andreas Hillgruber labeled the plans contained in Mein Kampf as Hitler's "Stufenplan" ("stage-by-stage plan"). The term "Stufenplan" has been widely used by historians, though it must be noted that the term was Hillgruber's, not Hitler's.
So there is no evidence of Htiler wanting actual European government. He wanted Germany to be the superpower with Britain, another superpower, and other fascist states.
11. Some Nazis did support European integration, but few of these were the major players in NAZI government. And Hitler never seemed to support European integration in any way. He just supported a Greater Germany, with Germany in the position the USA is today.
12. Churchill and Eisenhower both supported European integration
13. None of the 25 point program of the Nazis ideology in the twenties pointed to national cooperation Infact these points expressly asked for "All non-German immigration must be prevented", "Non-citizens may live in Germany only as guests and must be subject to laws for aliens.", "that no non-German newspapers may appear without the express permission of the State. They must not be printed in the German language;", "We demand the union of all Germany in a Greater Germany on the basis of the right of national self-determination."

14. In Mein Kampf Hitler agrees with the commonly stated idea that "England" deliberately seeks to keep Europe weak so that it can keep it's back door safe while it colonies the planet.
"Thus the political results of the war to prevent the development of German power was the creation of a French hegemony on the Continent. The military result was the consolidation of France as the first Continental Power and the recognition of American equality on the sea. The economic result was the cession of great spheres of British interests to her former allies and associates.

The Balkanization of Europe, up to a certain degree, was desirable and indeed necessary in the light of the traditional policy of Great Britain, just as France desired the Balkanization of Germany.

What England has always desired, and will continue to desire, is to prevent any one Continental Power in Europe from attaining a position of world importance. Therefore England wishes to maintain a definite equilibrium of forces among the European States - for this equilibrium seems a necessary condition of England's world-hegemony."

15. The EU was not in any way founded by NAZIs. In fact the initiator of the EUropean Union Robert Schuman was nearly executed by the NAZIs.
The ECSC, the forerunner of the European Union was first proposed by French foreign minister Robert Schuman on 9 May 1950 as a way to prevent further war between France and Germany. It was formally established in 1951 by the Treaty of Paris, signed not only by France and Germany, but also by Italy and the three Benelux states: Belgium, Luxembourg and the Netherlands.
Schuman was born on (June 29, 1886 – September 4, 1963) was a noted Luxembourg-born French politician, a Christian Democrat (M.R.P.) who is regarded as one of the founders of the European Union. After the death of his mother in a coach accident, Schuman may have briefly considered the religious life, but resolved to pursue a lay apostolate. He remained single and celibate throughout his life. He became a lawyer, and was judged medically unfit for military call-up. (He served in a civilian capacity during the First World War, so never wore a German uniform). He was a member of the city council of Metz as well as the German Katholikentag. After the First World War, Alsace-Lorraine was retaken by France and Schuman became active in French politics. In 1919 he was first elected as député to parliament on a regional list, and later serving as the député for Thionville until 1958 with an interval during the war years. He made a major contribution to the drafting and parliamentary passage of the Lex Schuman by the French parliament. Schuman also investigated and patiently uncovered postwar corruption in the Lorraine steel industries.
In 1940, because of his expertise on Germany, Schuman was called to become a member of Paul Reynaud's wartime government. Later that year, he was arrested for acts of resistance and protest against Nazi methods. He was interrogated by the Gestapo. Thanks to an honourable German, he was saved from being sent to Dachau. Transferred as a personal prisoner of the vicious Nazi Gauleiter Joseph Buerckel, he escaped in 1942 and joined the French Resistance. Although his life was still at risk, he spoke to friends about a Franco-German and European reconciliation that must take place after the end of hostilities, as he had already done in 1939-40.

15. The first people to talk of European economic communities were not the small number of NAZIs who disscussed it, but many many European through out the centuries.
As well as Churchill and Eisenhower.
Albert Camus. Algerian-born French author, philosopher, and journalist who won the Nobel prize in 1957. In 1944 Camus founded the “French Committee for the European Federation" (Comité Français pour la Féderation Européene -CFFE) declaring that Europe “can only evolve along the path of economic progress, democracy and peace if the nation states become a federation”.
In 22-25 March, 1945, the first conference of the European Federalist Movement was organised in Paris with the participation of Albert Camus, George Orwell, Emmanuel Mounier, Lewis Mumford, André Philip, Daniel Mayer, François Bondy and Altiero Spinelli (see the book “The Biography of Europe” by Pan Drakopoulos). This specific branch of the European Federalist Movement disintegrated in 1957 after the domination of Winston Churchill's ideas about the European integration. So even George Orwell supported this European Union idea. I am going to have alot of fun telling the NWO fans this.

16. The Roman Empire, Napolean, the Holly Roman Empire, Attila the Hun all took over large areas of Europe by millitary conquest or strategic alliances. So why do people say Hitler was first to unite Europe when he did not do that under any basis. Spain, Portugal, and non German Axis nations were not part of Germany. The UK was not under his control. So even if Hitler did conquer large parts of Europe. Other dictators and tyrants, or nations did before him. Stalin conquered much of Europe too after him. As did the . Plus Hitler invaded Africa so what does that have to do with the European Union. The Ottoman Empire conquered much of South Eastern Europe. The Mongols tried to conquer all of Europe. The Vikings took over much of Nothern Europe. Plus the Muslims conquered much of Spain. So where do people get off claiming Hitler was the first guy to try and conquer Europe. He did not, and was not the first to try. He was not even the first European to try.

17. This I hope should kill off the NWO drivel.
Hitler also talks of a Jewish world-dictatorship in Mein Kampf, Which compares to the NWO fanatics who claim Jews run the planet. In Mein Kampf, Hitler states "Should one State preserve its national strength and its national greatness the empire of the Jewish satrapy, like every other tyranny, would have to succumb to the force of the national idea.".
So there you go final Hitler arguing that that the national idea must continue in the face of what today right wingers might call the NWO.: